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RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 11:16 PM
https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/neymar- stagram-following-penalty-disagreement-142224 Watch the clip, ignore Cavani Where does Neymar come from!!??!!
RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 11:07 PM
Tweet — Twitter API (@user) date Leave alone the fact that it's probably a bit of lazy stereotyping, Neville was sold the same summer we bought Park. So he didn't play with him unless they crossed paths in some testimonial. I guess this thread will have plenty of material if someone keeps paying...
RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 8:50 PM
https://www.premierleague.com/news/465277 Official Squad Lists. Home grown only matters for those who qualify as over 21 for this season. Seems City and Chelsea are a bit light, which is no surprise. What about Spurs, I might have miscounted but I only came up with 4! Granted that have a some nic...
RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 8:37 PM
Surely this can't be true? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/09/18/rio-ferdinand-become-professional-boxer-age-38/
RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 6:07 PM
Yes what is this. I have seen and heard our rivals fans and even some of our fans say we don't play entertaining or pretty football. Everytime, someone says that I am always like what does that even mean. Some say Liverpool and klopp play entertaining football than us, for more than a decade arse...
RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 3:49 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal rie-a-record-sparking-tears-and-transfer-talk Nice article. Thoughts from the Italian contingent on here?
RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 3:49 PM
Just read a lengthy article about another Brazilian wonder-kid who seems to be tearing it up in France. Is he destined for the top? (And yes, mainly started the thread to make that terrible pun)
RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 3:49 PM
Now upgraded to a Category 5. Being that I, and some other caftards, live in Florida, we'll be keeping an eye on it in this thread. Fingers crossed that it doesn't cross into the Gulf of Mexico. Tweet — Twitter API (@user) date
RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 3:47 PM
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RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 1:05 PM
green_smiley Pat_Mustard green_smiley Formation: 4-2-3-1 Shilton , one of the best keepers in this draft, behind two World Cup winners Scirea and Aldair. Scirea will play a more defensive role in this game, primarily responsible to keep a close eye on van Basten. His Synth Draft: R1 - green_smile...
RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 12:58 PM
2mufc0 OneNil 2mufc0 Formation: 4-4-2 I have gone with a classic 4-4-2 with aim of providing a system where both of my star attackers Keegan & Rummenigge can combine and get the best out of them. They will have plenty of space behind them to operate and interchange. They will be supported on the...
RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 12:05 PM
The recent mood around the Caf seems to be of surprise, to be honest. 16 goals in 5 games is something we're clearly not familiar with and who can blame those who maybe a little taken away by our current form? I'd liken this start to 11/12 where we were on fire till that infamous game against Cit...
RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 11:18 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb ne-rooney-arrested-11092069?ICID=FB_mirror_MF
RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 10:55 AM
At EBB Stadium in Aldershot Kick off at 7pm Live on MUTV
RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 10:49 AM
After the famous case of sex tape , a new blackmail to the video would have occurred. According to information Click to expand Kurzawa victim of video blackmail where he criticizes Deschamps
RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 10:19 AM
According to Portuguese newspaper(OJogo) we've been scouting Benfica extensively this season(not only for UCL but also) for Zivkovic, their young winger who plays on the right but is left footed. Think there might be some truth in this considering we'll need a right winger eventually to replace M...
RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 9:17 AM
At one point or another during the just closed transfer window, there were reports linking some players to United during the summer. The ones that really stood out and could have been legitimate reports included: Morata Dier Rose Perisic James Rodriguez Renato Sanchez Fabinho Semido Aurier Michae...
RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 5:57 AM
I figure a RW/10 is the obvious attacking signing with the assumption being that one of Martial or Rashford will be our LW of the present and future and Lukaku is our 9. A RW who could possibly play as the 10 in the 4-2-3-1 with Mkhitaryan and Mata fighting it out at RW and backing him up and the...
RedCafe.net - Mon Sep 18 12:22 AM
I've been interested in our goal scoring stats this year considering that we've found ourselves rippling the net more often. One thing that crossed my mind is how often we have scored at the tail end of games so I decided to have a little dig into when goals were scored. In 7 competitive matches,...
RedCafe.net - Sun Sep 17 11:57 PM
How can the greatest female artist of all damn time not have a thread dedicated to her incredible music? But yeah Ahhh, I just Yes, yes, yes! NEW ALBUM HYPE! "This is like my Tinder record." I've not been this ready for an album release since AMSP The idea of a return to Björk - New Album Imminen...
RedCafe.net - Sun Sep 17 11:10 PM
Yeeeessssssss incredible achievement!!!! Can't wait tomorrow when our guys come back it will be crazy!
RedCafe.net - Sun Sep 17 9:15 PM
First episode, The Hood Maker just started on Channel 4.
RedCafe.net - Sun Sep 17 8:21 PM
One of the reasons why we didn't start with a 352 in the campaign is because we didn't have a wing back that was suited to it, which is why we were going for Perisic. But I think we should give Young a shot there as hes got all the attributes to be a decent wing back. Hes also defensively...
RedCafe.net - Sun Sep 17 6:54 PM
Somehow these lot are fourth after 5 games.
RedCafe.net - Sun Sep 17 6:36 PM
Why no jolly between Jones & Bailly in the last 2 league games? Fatigue, complacent, or the opponents were too good?
RedCafe.net - Sun Sep 17 6:02 PM
Man Utd 1:0 Everton - Valencia (4') Man Utd 2:0 Everton - Mkhitaryan (83') Man Utd 3:0 Everton - Lukaku (89')
RedCafe.net - Sun Sep 17 5:59 PM
A third of the goals we scored in 15/16, and it's still September.
RedCafe.net - Sun Sep 17 5:58 PM
Let the discussion begin
RedCafe.net - Sun Sep 17 5:43 PM
Seen it so many times. Once we score we start being labourous and sloppy. Jose mentioned it midweek as well. It's a long standing problem that we had for years. Why? Why don't just go for the jugular and kill teams off? I know we had a couple of late flurries against Swansea and Leicester but it...
RedCafe.net - Sun Sep 17 1:08 PM
The transfer thread was closed so I think it's time start thread on football forum to keep discussion about Dembele.
RedCafe.net - Sun Sep 17 10:55 AM
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RedCafe.net - Sun Sep 17 10:52 AM
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/4481774/charlton-athletic-football-club-lgbt/ Article reckons Prem clubs will soon follow. The debate over trans recognition will continue to rage on, but for those in favour this is surely a massive step in the right direction. However with some clubs still without...
RedCafe.net - Sun Sep 17 10:51 AM
This thread is made with intent purpose of jinxing the Aguero and Jesus partnership. So the partnership that can't work together has scored 9 goals in the league between them, I'm worried that could be a deadly partnership both have the talent to score 20+ goals and I'm sure they will be setting...
RedCafe.net - Sun Sep 17 5:47 AM
Please make new match threads to discuss a current U18 and U23 matches instead of using the Misc. thread for match discussion. We've a whole forum dedicated for youth/reserve matters for a reason, let's make full use of it.
RedCafe.net - Sat Sep 16 11:40 PM
I'm not a big fan of hip hop, so I didn't really discover Nujabes' music until very recently. I got to say that I'm completely addicted. His music is so unique and soulful. Unfortunately he died 7 years ago(rip), so I've already gone through most of his music. Are there any other similar artists/...
RedCafe.net - Sat Sep 16 10:05 PM
Raees Moby Raees Formation: 4-2-2-2 (overlapping wing-backs providing width) Key tactical ploys: Passarella in a more defensive role , only going forwards if both Cabrini and Ancellotti are dropping back for cover. All rounders Ancellotti and Synth Draft: R1 - Raees vs Moby
RedCafe.net - Sat Sep 16 9:13 PM
They realised very quickly that they made a massive error with De Boer and didn't waste time correcting the error. If we'd have had the balls to do it with Moyes in 2013, we may not have been so shit over the last 4 seasons.
RedCafe.net - Sat Sep 16 8:51 PM
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RedCafe.net - Sat Sep 16 8:10 PM
Borders are necessary for any kind of stable, civilized life. Without borders, there can be no possibility of a central power exercising sovereignty, and without sovereignty we would all be living in Hobbes's State of Nature .
RedCafe.net - Sat Sep 16 7:47 PM
8 games in Leeds are Top of the Championship. Anyone following how he's doing?
RedCafe.net - Sat Sep 16 7:08 PM
Tweet — Twitter API (@user) date 8 games, 1 win, 1 draw, 6 losses. Didn't expect that at all
RedCafe.net - Sat Sep 16 4:31 PM
Anybody from Spain could tell us if the government will use force to stop this referendum? That could be bad and drag Spain to terrorism and more provinces requesting a referendum imo.
RedCafe.net - Sat Sep 16 11:03 AM
Reports of an explosion on the tube near Parsons Green.
RedCafe.net - Sat Sep 16 10:38 AM
RIP Marc Bolan. Loved T Rex. Still one of my top 5 favourite bands of all time.
RedCafe.net - Sat Sep 16 10:18 AM
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RedCafe.net - Sat Sep 16 1:49 AM
Looks like its kicking off in St. Louis tonight. Tweet — Twitter API (@user) date
RedCafe.net - Fri Sep 15 6:54 PM
Tweet — Twitter API (@user) date http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41280150 Hopefully he's fine.
RedCafe.net - Fri Sep 15 4:48 PM
There's endless praise for players who were successful playing for one club like Xavi, Scholes, Del Piero etc but I don't think enough praise is given to the players who have performed at the highest level for multiple clubs and their country. My pick for the most successful multi club player is...
RedCafe.net - Fri Sep 15 4:36 PM
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RedCafe.net - Fri Sep 15 3:39 PM
Out today. Just got my copy. Anyone else play, and what you think of it?
RedCafe.net - Fri Sep 15 3:15 PM
A chronicled look at the criminal exploits of Colombian drug lord Pablo Escobar. Click to expand New Netflix original, season 1 all available today.
RedCafe.net - Fri Sep 15 1:36 PM
Watching pundits speak, the same cliches come up time and time again, for example: Whenever a defence looks bad, everyone just says 'they need a leader', without any other further information about tactics. Punditry really should focus more on the analysis of tactics instead of the analysis of pl...
RedCafe.net - Fri Sep 15 1:32 PM
Isco probably takes top spot as he's gone from a spare piece to legitimately one of the best players on the planet. Manè has gone from a player most didn't want at United to a player most expect to make the leap to one of the world's elite. Do any others immediately spring to mind?
RedCafe.net - Fri Sep 15 12:44 PM
http://www.independent.ie/entertain ontroversial-rape-case-comments-36134624.html Over reaction or right reaction? The nation seems to be devided
RedCafe.net - Fri Sep 15 12:13 PM
Tweet — Twitter API (@user) date http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41280150 Hopefully he's fine.
RedCafe.net - Fri Sep 15 10:33 AM
Jose Mourinho has reportedly fallen out with both Paul Pogba and Ander Herrera. Pogba faces around six weeks on the sidelines with a hamstring injury sustained in the 3-0 Champions League win over Basel in midweek. According to The Sun, Mourinho has been left ‘furious’ by the midfielder, who is b...
RedCafe.net - Fri Sep 15 9:21 AM
Reports of an explosion on the tube near Parsons Green.
RedCafe.net - Fri Sep 15 8:56 AM
RedCafe.net - Fri Sep 15 8:54 AM
Reports of an explosion on the tube near Parsons Green.
RedCafe.net - Thu Sep 14 10:30 PM
It starts today! Happy days for us!
RedCafe.net - Thu Sep 14 10:14 PM
So one could say all teams have had decent starts to their CL campaigns. Which one do you think had the best chance going the most distance this year. Chelsea - looked really comfortable admittedly against a week opposition. While they were expected to brush aside the opposition anyways, the fact...
RedCafe.net - Thu Sep 14 10:05 PM
Tweet — Twitter API (@user) date £47.5m. 2nd most expensive defender ever.
RedCafe.net - Thu Sep 14 6:09 PM
New season started yesterday. Did anyone else catch it? Bit meh if i'm honest. Hopefully its just a slow burner
RedCafe.net - Thu Sep 14 5:55 PM
With the first week of the Champions league over, it was interesting looking back and thinking we might have a couple new interesting rivalry's developing. Kane and Lukaku have been battling domestically for arguable two years now but with Lukaku finally having that higher platform, it's been int...
RedCafe.net - Thu Sep 14 2:52 PM
Public sector pay cap to be lifted Reality Check: Is public sector pay higher than private sector? What do you think is the best balance here? In the same way a sweeping cap had long outlasted its practical and moral basis, these calls for a 5% rise or sector-wide increase are equally so. Nor ove...
RedCafe.net - Thu Sep 14 1:04 PM
Uber to appeal against English tests for drivers http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40427983 Do you disagree with the rule, or believe it to be reasonable enough?
RedCafe.net - Thu Sep 14 12:37 PM
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger says Europa League glory is not the best way to return to Champions League Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has admitted he does not view the Europa League as an avenue by which to qualify for the Champions League. After missing out on reaching Europe's Click to expand Ars...
RedCafe.net - Thu Sep 14 11:57 AM
On this week's United Hour , Imran ( @Annihilate Now! ), Colm ( @Duafc ) and Craig ( @Schmiznurf ) gather to discuss a variety of Manchester United related (and some unrelated) topics, ranging from beating Basel, how rain makes Fellaini's hair even more glorious, really crap defending, getting ki...
RedCafe.net - Thu Sep 14 10:54 AM
One of the highlights of this 2017 / 2018 season has been the intriguing battle between Marcus Rashford and Anthony Martial. In playing time terms, they have both been given their chances and we have seen what they can do this season. I'll cut through the chase: who is or who has been better, Mar...
RedCafe.net - Thu Sep 14 8:20 AM
we have a squad and that's what it's for but the Pogba injury is a big one it's the combination I am wondering about Pogba is a great passer, is mobile, defends and attacks, scores goals Matic and Carrick behind Mhiki might be a bit negative but you have a great passer in Carrick Matic and Herrer...
RedCafe.net - Thu Sep 14 2:38 AM
What a player. Just watching a replay of Liverpool v Sevilla. Liverpool bummed them but drew.
RedCafe.net - Thu Sep 14 2:38 AM
As the title says. Personally, I think we finally have a good team. First time in years that the majority of our first 11 are good players, for me. But watching the CL games yesterday and today - the PL teams all looked very good, as did Barca, Real, Bayern. I think what I learnt is that we have...
RedCafe.net - Thu Sep 14 12:06 AM
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RedCafe.net - Wed Sep 13 11:33 PM
Paul Pogba facing up to six weeks out injured in huge blow to Manchester United share Pogba out for 4 to 6 weeks. Big test ahead for United.
RedCafe.net - Wed Sep 13 11:32 PM
Suarez hat-trick v Norwich popped up on my Facebook and it got me thinking, what is the greatest hat-trick of all time, all things considered (quality, importance) Can't think of one that tops this for importance, and it must be one of the best quality wise too?
RedCafe.net - Wed Sep 13 11:24 PM
Best CB in the league?
RedCafe.net - Wed Sep 13 6:43 PM
12 year old Cameroon born German who has been lighting up the youth teams of Germany & Dortmund. Scored 3 goals in 2 for Germany's U16's and 13 in 5 for Dortmund's U17's. Obvious questions about his age have surfaced but all been quashed. Under the DFB rules he has to wait another 5 years to make...
RedCafe.net - Wed Sep 13 6:36 PM
Ibra is 88, for some reason he's not on this list.
RedCafe.net - Wed Sep 13 6:01 PM
Steven Gerrard ‘in talks’ over Liverpool return to work with Klopp • Former Anfield captain eyeing role on German’s coaching staff • Gerrard may also be back as a Liverpool player • Yet more bullet points In Halloween news, Steven Gerrard is reportedly holding talks with Jürgen Klopp over a surpr...
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Inspired by discussion in Lukaku's chant thread. Probably the Georgie Best or Cantona for me.
RedCafe.net - Wed Sep 13 4:35 PM
Tweet — Twitter API (@user) date In Summary: Bayern could trigger a mid contract release clause on Carlo's contract with Julian Nagelsmann touted as a potential replacement.
RedCafe.net - Wed Sep 13 4:18 PM
Tweet — Twitter API (@user) date In Summary: Bayern could trigger a mid contract release clause on Carlo's contract, which would release him an potentially have Julian Nagelsmann coming in as a replacement.
RedCafe.net - Wed Sep 13 2:02 PM
Hi, I'm a journalist that writes about women's football and I'm writing a piece on Man United's old women's team. I want to chat to an ex player (pre-2005 when it ended) on what it was like for women to pull on the United shirt. I'm struggling to find even a list of players. I was wondering if an...
RedCafe.net - Wed Sep 13 1:40 PM
Tweet — Twitter API (@user) date "He will be informed of my tactical plans but I won't pick him right now. He's not ready physically. He's not fit to play, " Wu said. "He is overweight, along with Fredy Guarin. I have to take responsibility for the team and the players as well. If you are unabl...
RedCafe.net - Wed Sep 13 12:47 PM
I'm a bit puzzled by Jose's preference for tall players, epsecially in midfield. United must have the tallest squad among the big clubs in the world. What's exaclty the point of collecting a squad of physically big players? No one of the most successful clubs does it: Real and Barca have 1-2 very...
RedCafe.net - Wed Sep 13 11:31 AM
Thinking about this just now, how do you think Glazers are reacting to development in current state of football? The prices for average players are now £50 million. They're bound to be thinking: is it worth investing that much money into the club every summer whilst taking probably less dividends...
RedCafe.net - Wed Sep 13 11:04 AM
Just reading up on some of the old intercontinental matches in the 60's and realized that football used to be even more mental than I thought. Examples.. 1967: Celtic vs Racing Club , in a match later called 'The Battle of Montenegro' where no less than 6 players were sent off, one player (Celtic...
RedCafe.net - Wed Sep 13 9:26 AM
I'm a bit puzzled by Jose's preference for tall players, epsecially in midfield. United must have the tallest squad among the big clubs in the world. What's exaclty the point of collecting a squad of physically big players? No one of the most successful clubs does it: Real and Barca have 1-2 very...
RedCafe.net - Wed Sep 13 8:14 AM
After the game against Basel, an upset Jose Mourinho told BT, the following: “Three points are important when you start the group phase at home. Until 2-0 we were very stable, with confidence and patience, with good choices, played quite well. ”After that everything changed. We stopped to think,...
RedCafe.net - Wed Sep 13 7:52 AM
A common debate in the caf this season is how badly United needs to sign 'crossers' and get better at crossing. There are a a few different notions and strongly held views in this regard. But what is the reality when we compare the top six so far? I took a look at the goals scored by the top 6...
RedCafe.net - Wed Sep 13 3:31 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/sep/12/celtic-pitch-invader-mbappe-uefa-champions-league • Supporter attempted to kick the Paris Saint-Germain striker • Bitterly disappointing’ incident condemned by Brendan Rodgers Celtic face an anxious wait to discover the scale of an inevitable Uefa...
RedCafe.net - Tue Sep 12 10:49 PM
It's a boring and tired concept now. It's all a bit meh. Someone change the damn thing. No one cares about the group stages anymore.
RedCafe.net - Tue Sep 12 10:07 PM
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RedCafe.net - Tue Sep 12 9:51 PM
Let the discussion begin
RedCafe.net - Tue Sep 12 9:50 PM
Man Utd 1:0 Basel - Fellaini (35') Man Utd 2:0 Basel - Lukaku (53') Man Utd 3:0 Basel - Rashford (84')
RedCafe.net - Tue Sep 12 8:21 PM
Jesus Christ, this is one horrible commentator. He's on FS1 now. He sounds like a little mouse with a bad cold. Just isnt suited to a job which requires speaking. Oh, and he talks shite, but that's hardly news.
RedCafe.net - Tue Sep 12 7:36 PM
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RedCafe.net - Tue Sep 12 5:40 PM
I'm not sure if there's a thread that already exists. If so, moderator please merge them together. With some of the top young talents moving to/ present at big teams this season such as: Mbappe - PSG Dembele - Barcelona Asensio - Real Madrid G Jesus - Man City Sane - Man City Vinicius Jr. - Real...
RedCafe.net - Tue Sep 12 2:05 PM
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RedCafe.net - Tue Sep 12 1:58 PM
http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/footbal -would-make-united-cl-challengers_307042.html Personally I think Bale would flourish at a club where he is the big star instead of playing second fiddle to (in this case) Ronaldo. I'd love to see Bale back in England and especially United and think he would ind...
RedCafe.net - Tue Sep 12 1:57 PM
What the feck is this? Two YouTubers organising a boxing fight and having a proper press conference, is this thing even licensed? And people thought Mayweather v McGregor was a low point for boxing and yes I may have inadvertently promoted this, but it deserves ridicule.
RedCafe.net - Tue Sep 12 1:55 PM
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RedCafe.net - Tue Sep 12 1:45 PM
Just a quick one, hopefully. The text box I use for typing replies, messages, etc. no longer has quick options to add media, quotes, images, and is simply a blank text box. I was threadbanned from the Game of Thrones thread. Would it have something to do with that? Reducing my posting privileges...
RedCafe.net - Tue Sep 12 1:14 PM
The premier league teams have struggled in the Champions League lately. The tournament has been dominated very much by the La Liga giants battled fiercely by Bayern Munich. Teams like Juventus and PSG, even though have not won it recently, have at least given the Spanish giants and the rest of Eu...
RedCafe.net - Tue Sep 12 1:14 PM
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41239042 Sky will be able to stream all midweek Championship matches after agreeing a new £600m five-year domestic rights deal with the English Football League. All EFL clubs will be able to stream midweek league games via their websites if Sky are not broadcasti...
RedCafe.net - Tue Sep 12 11:36 AM
in terms of a munutes per goal ratio: 1.Aguero 2. Kane 3. Henry 4. RVN 5. Hernandez 6. Suarez 7. RVP 8. Dzeko 9. Sturridge 10. D. Costa 11. Shearer 12. Solskjaer 13. Owen 17. Lukaku No Ronaldo, Rooney, Cole, York, Drogba in top 20. It's understandable about Ronaldo and Rooney (didn't play enough...
RedCafe.net - Tue Sep 12 7:49 AM
With Barcelona losing Neymar, Bale crocked and Ronaldo/ Messi getting old and the next generations only player Mbappe going to PSG is La Liga slowing dying its death. Will it be remembered like Channel 4 Italian football? Even the bosses or La Liga are moaning like a Benitez style rant. Discuss
RedCafe.net - Tue Sep 12 7:34 AM
At Leigh Sports Village Kick off at 3pm BST Live on MUTV Three over-age players included in the squad are Ro-Shaun Williams, Tyrell Warren and Ethan Hamilton.
RedCafe.net - Tue Sep 12 1:07 AM
'Rummenigge, who was talking to German publication BILD, proceeded to hit out at striker Lewandowski, criticizing his long-time ambition to join Real Madrid. "I am sorry for what Lewandowski said. It's not the first time he talks bad about our club and I know his agent Barthel is behind his state...