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      Reply #1081: Sep 24, 2017 12:14:25 pm
      The fury family really are a bunch of scumbags
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      Reply #1082: Sep 24, 2017 02:13:19 pm
      Thought Luke Campbell did well to go the full 12 rounds with Jorge Linares after getting put down in the second round, although overall thought it was a deserved win for Linares on points.
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      Reply #1083: Oct 09, 2017 03:17:01 am
      Impressive showing from Eubank Jr against Yildrim. Still think Groves and Smith will beat him though.

      A good win for Anthony Crolla as well in a tough fight with Ricky Burns. If Terry Flanagan doesn't get the Linares fight, and I'm not convinced he will, I wouldn't mind seeing him fight Flanagan.

      Bellew vs Haye being on a Sunday is a bit weird. Same prediction as last time; if Haye doesn't blast him out early, Bellew stands a real chance.

      Not sure Haye is capable of doing the distance at a fast pace any more. Regardless of the Achilles injury, this is a fella who was told to retire for good by doctors in 2013. Rumour has it that his split with Mcguigan only came about because he'd advised him to retire too.
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      Re: Boxing
      Reply #1084: Oct 28, 2017 10:34:50 pm
      AJ towering over Takam.
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      Reply #1085: Oct 28, 2017 11:13:24 pm
      What the F**k was that stoppage, that lad was nowhere near out. He can take a bloody beating that Takam lad that's for sure.

      Clearly Joshua was winning but big credit to Takam for putting up such a battle.

      20 - 0 and the AJ train keeps rolling.
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      Reply #1086: Oct 28, 2017 11:18:49 pm
      What the f**k was that stoppage, that lad was nowhere near out. He can take a bloody beating that Takam lad that's for sure.

      Clearly Joshua was winning but big credit to Takam for putting up such a battle.

      20 - 0 and the AJ train keeps rolling.

      Yeah very odd stoppage where Takam wasn't exactly taking a beating.

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      Reply #1087: Oct 29, 2017 02:01:10 am
      What a load of sh*t that fight was, glad I went out and watched it and didnā€™t pay to watch it on box office. Wasnā€™t impressed by AJ at all in that fight, especially with the show boating at one stage by dropping his hands and basically telling Takam to have a go. That was the kind of fight Iā€™d expect from Haye, not AJ. Poor performance in a fight he could and should have finished much sooner than he did. That said, it shouldnā€™t have even ended when it did, Takam although was clear he wasnā€™t going to win any rounds, he was in more than a good enough condition to take the fight to a points decision.

      He fights like that against Wilder or Parker and he will lose.
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      Reply #1088: Oct 29, 2017 02:00:10 pm
      Job done for AJ, no top boxer ever goes through their career without grinding out a few like he did last night. Can't be knocking people out within 5 rounds every time. Strange stoppage though.

      Wilder-AJ would be a good fight but I've seen absolutely nothing from Parker to suggest he could even get close to AJ.
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      Reply #1089: Nov 02, 2017 07:50:02 pm
      No one can argue that AJ is at least one of, if not the best heavyweight in the world right now. But only because everyone else isn't really *that* good either.

      Put any of them in the same mix as Lewis, Tyson, Bowe etc in the 90s and I honestly think they'd struggle to win a single legitimate world title between them. And that's not even the greatest heavyweight era of all time either.

      All this hype is doing my head in. Sky Sports running a poll the other day asking if Joshua was the greatest British heavyweight of all time.. laughable.
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      Reply #1090: Nov 02, 2017 08:12:00 pm
      No one can argue that AJ is at least one of, if not the best heavyweight in the world right now. But only because everyone else isn't really *that* good either.

      Put any of them in the same mix as Lewis, Tyson, Bowe etc in the 90s and I honestly think they'd struggle to win a single legitimate world title between them. And that's not even the greatest heavyweight era of all time either.

      All this hype is doing my head in. Sky Sports running a poll the other day asking if Joshua was the greatest British heavyweight of all time.. laughable.


      Between AJ & Lewis to be fair.

      I think he's a very good fighter. What people are forgetting is that he had trained to face a bigger opponent, hence the extra weight he put on etc, Takam to his credit did a very good job at short notice, I also get the feeling as AJ pointed out at the end of the fight that everyone is expecting to flatten and ko everyone he faces.
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      Reply #1091: Nov 02, 2017 10:31:58 pm
      AJ is still young and will get deadlier as he goes along,was speaking about this with Max McCracken earlier today, said he needs more fights & opponents like Klitchko.
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      Reply #1092: Nov 03, 2017 12:59:56 pm
      I think heā€™d be exposed by better opposition; as he very nearly was by a 41 year old Wlad... who may well have stopped him if he hadnā€™t taken bad advice from his corner.

      The Fury who fought Klitschko and the Joshua who fought Klitschko.. who you backing?
       
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      Reply #1093: Nov 04, 2017 01:00:25 am
      I think heā€™d be exposed by better opposition; as he very nearly was by a 41 year old Wlad... who may well have stopped him if he hadnā€™t taken bad advice from his corner.

      The Fury who fought Klitschko and the Joshua who fought Klitschko.. who you backing?
       

      Are you serious? Klitschko despite being 41 could still take apart pretty much the whole of the heavyweight division bar the odd couple and he is far too experienced to lose a fight based on what his corner were saying, especially when he has sparred with AJ, he knows what his weaknesses are.

      The Fury who fought Klitschko or the AJ that did is a bit of an odd thing to say because it was like 2 different Klitschko's in each fight. Against Fury he was throwing barely anything, I remember thinking it as almost being a complete farce, he just didn't seem to care. Against AJ he was going for it though, if he had gone at Fury the way he did AJ then Fury wouldn't have got the win, absolutely no chance at all.

      I wasn't impressed by AJ against Takam but if he hits anyone like he was hitting Klitschko, as well as being able to take hits like he was in that fight then I can't see anyone putting a stop to him any time soon, especially Fury.

      The only one who can come close to AJ right now is Wilder and possibly Parker if he fights like he did against Takam but he wont, that was a one off because it was a late change, it wasn't going to be easy. Fury and AJ aren't even in the same league IMO.
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      Reply #1094: Nov 10, 2017 02:22:25 am
      Are you serious? Klitschko despite being 41 could still take apart pretty much the whole of the heavyweight division bar the odd couple and he is far too experienced to lose a fight based on what his corner were saying, especially when he has sparred with AJ, he knows what his weaknesses are.

      The Fury who fought Klitschko or the AJ that did is a bit of an odd thing to say because it was like 2 different Klitschko's in each fight. Against Fury he was throwing barely anything, I remember thinking it as almost being a complete farce, he just didn't seem to care. Against AJ he was going for it though, if he had gone at Fury the way he did AJ then Fury wouldn't have got the win, absolutely no chance at all.

      I wasn't impressed by AJ against Takam but if he hits anyone like he was hitting Klitschko, as well as being able to take hits like he was in that fight then I can't see anyone putting a stop to him any time soon, especially Fury.

      The only one who can come close to AJ right now is Wilder and possibly Parker if he fights like he did against Takam but he wont, that was a one off because it was a late change, it wasn't going to be easy. Fury and AJ aren't even in the same league IMO.

      Thatā€™s sort of the point I was making earlier isnā€™t it. Wlad very nearly beat him. Wlad would pretty much beat everyone else at the minute. Wlad, especially at 41, is not an ATG. People are hyping AJ up as if he is one.

      If he fought in some of the bygone eras where the division was full of greats, AJ would struggle to win a legitimate world title; as would Klitschko and the rest of them.

      Weā€™ll never know for definite if Wlad listened to his corner and took his foot off the gas. I reckon he did though and Vitali has publicly said he blames himself for his brothers loss because of the bad advice he gave him inbetween rounds.

      As for Klitschkoā€™s performances against Fury and Joshua, I donā€™t think he just ā€œdidnā€™t careā€ against TF.

      Fury was horrible and awkward, made himself difficult to hit and stopped Klitschko from getting any sort of rhythm going. He wasnā€™t pretty, he definitely wasnā€™t exciting but he executed a perfect game plan and beat ā€˜the manā€™ in his own back yard.

      Maybe that loss put a bit of fire in his belly against Joshua.. thereā€™s no doubt that was the more exciting fight but Furyā€™s performance was easily better technically than AJā€™s was.

      Weā€™ll hopefully see next year if AJ really is in a different league to Fury. I, for one, definitely donā€™t think he is.
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      Reply #1095: Nov 10, 2017 06:29:05 pm
      Lewis was over hyped.  I think Joshua is heading for bigger things.  He has it all to prove. 
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      Reply #1096: Nov 11, 2017 10:34:13 pm
      What a fight Leather v Foot was.
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      Reply #1097: Nov 22, 2017 03:09:27 am
      Lewis was over hyped.  I think Joshua is heading for bigger things.  He has it all to prove. 

      Get to F**k, Lennox Lewis was a great fighter and got better under Manny Steward.

      Still remember a Lewis destroying Razor Ruddock in two rounds.
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      Reply #1098: Nov 29, 2017 05:13:33 am
      https://youtu.be/AbEL_kQNZUE

      The late, great Manny Steward talking about this current crop of heavyweights. Canā€™t remember many others making predictions as accurate as these back in early 2012.

      The bit about Price especially is eye opening. Donā€™t think anybody else had doubts over Priceyā€™s mental toughness back then. Just goes to show how much a world class trainer can see in a fighter from sparring.

      Nothing about AJ though who was obviously just an amateur training for the upcoming olympics at the time.
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      Reply #1099: Jan 16, 2018 10:53:14 pm
      AJ vs Parker, March 31st.

      Just saw a press conference of it and Parker thinks he's quicker than AJ, don't see it personally. Parker has had a much easier group of opponents than AJ has. Could be a boss fight but if AJ is on it, I think he will get the KO again.
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      Reply #1100: Feb 03, 2018 10:52:35 pm
      This Okolie Chamberlain fight is absolutely awful.
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      Reply #1101: Feb 03, 2018 11:04:21 pm
      This Okolie Chamberlain fight is absolutely awful.

      Horrible.
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      Reply #1102: Mar 25, 2018 04:20:25 pm
      Good win for Whyte last night, although his opponent Aussie Lucas Browne looked like he was working as a bouncer on London's West End!!

      Whyte immediately calling out Deontay Wilder after the fight.
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      Reply #1103: Mar 25, 2018 06:55:03 pm
      Good win for Whyte last night, although his opponent Aussie Lucas Browne looked like he was working as a bouncer on London's West End!!

      Whyte immediately calling out Deontay Wilder after the fight.

      Yep - can only beat whatā€™s in front of you though and he did that in good style.

      Heā€™s got a really awkward, loose style from his start in kick boxing that makes him unpredictable again nt the big names.

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