Woodburn v TAA v Brewster

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #23: Sep 06, 2017 09:47:35 pm

Quote from Scottbot on Sep 06, 2017 08:53:44 pm

I like TAA but if people aren't seriously excited about this lad there is something wrong! This kid is the reason we won't get too upset when Coutinho buggers off in 12 months time. BIG FUTURE.

As soon as he came on vs Moldova and Austria, you could see he had a presence in attack. I wanted the ball into his feet at every opportunity, more so than Bale and Ramsey!!!

I think he is a specialist player, and actually reminds me of James. I think he has the potential to be a special player, but Klopp needs to trust him a little bit more imo, like how he does with TAA to reach that level.

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #24: Sep 07, 2017 05:32:47 am

I don't know Brewster. TAA is a lock for being a top drawer player. He has looked at times the most experienced and competent player on the pitch in the games he's played this year. Woodburn is trying to keep up with him and make sure he is in the first team. Ultimately they will be judged by what they do at the very top. Both TAA and Woodburn have impressed, but TAA shades it for me because he has done it for Liverpool.

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #25: Sep 07, 2017 07:26:20 am

A welcome thread to discuss positivity!

Can't comment on Brewster but his pedigree is top class, so far.

TAA will have the most chance to cement a spot out of the three but i just love how Woodburn plays. He has a brain and doesn't rely on pace or strength.

Can't split the two. And that makes me very excited.

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #26: Sep 07, 2017 08:20:45 am

its like choosing between Gerrard and Fowler. Both TAA and Ben would be great players for LFC in years to come.

For now TAA looks like the real deal but I see Ben doing an Owen for us in no time.

Rhain I have heard a lot about but for strikers its a bit difficult to break into the 1st team so for now based on what I know I will go with TAA cos he has a chance to play more 1st team footy and develop in the early years hopefully than the other 2.

But its a great period for LFC youngsters and we have a coach who also believes in blooding them into the 1st team.

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #27: Sep 07, 2017 09:19:01 am

Too early all this.

TAA is getting game time so he is closer to the 1st team, but that is only because Clyne is injured and there is no real competition for that place. It is not a true indication of the progress of the player, but, he does have a fantastic opportunity now to try and show Klopp what he can do.

Wooburn and Brewster obviously struggle to get game time because we now have a wealth of talent in those areas. I can't see either getting any real consideration for some time. The odd cup game is all.

In terms of their future, well who can say? Times have changed. We haven't had the likes of a Gerrard. We've had several names come through the ranks and drift away. Some of those talented, some were shocking.

How about Ojo? Ibe? Sterling? They were supposed to be the next great Liverpool legend. Nothing came of them. I mean Sterling is still on a level (of some sort) but he's moved on. Even if TAA, Woodburn and Brewster "make it", would they stay here? Would they become a club legend? What are the lottery numbers?

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #28: Sep 07, 2017 10:24:07 am

Quote from DanMann on Sep 07, 2017 09:19:01 am

Too early all this.

TAA is getting game time so he is closer to the 1st team, but that is only because Clyne is injured and there is no real competition for that place. It is not a true indication of the progress of the player, but, he does have a fantastic opportunity now to try and show Klopp what he can do.

Wooburn and Brewster obviously struggle to get game time because we now have a wealth of talent in those areas. I can't see either getting any real consideration for some time. The odd cup game is all.

In terms of their future, well who can say? Times have changed. We haven't had the likes of a Gerrard. We've had several names come through the ranks and drift away. Some of those talented, some were shocking.

How about Ojo? Ibe? Sterling? They were supposed to be the next great Liverpool legend. Nothing came of them. I mean Sterling is still on a level (of some sort) but he's moved on. Even if TAA, Woodburn and Brewster "make it", would they stay here? Would they become a club legend? What are the lottery numbers?

Bang goes the positivity in this thread, congratulations Mr Killjoy!

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #29: Sep 07, 2017 10:43:09 am

TAA has impressed me most, duo much so that I'm almost glad Clyne got injured still that Trent could get this opportunity. I like Clyne too, but he's just a decent average player imo. Trent has so much more potential.

Wooburn may struggle to get game time, unless Sturridge gets injured again, so he might not get the opportunity to reach his potential here.

I don't know anything about Brewster so I can't give an opinion.

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #30: Sep 07, 2017 10:52:20 am

Quote from ORCHARD RED on Sep 07, 2017 10:43:09 am

Wooburn may struggle to get game time, unless Sturridge gets injured again, so he might not get the opportunity to reach his potential here.

I think Klopp is giving him the best chance to make it by dropping him slightly deeper in his development.

In pre season he gave him time in an attacking midfield role rather than as a forward. He will be more getting minutes in a Lallana , Coutinho, Gini role rather than up against Sturridge, Firmino etc

Dropping him there also gives him a more rounded view of the game, getting on the ball with players ahead of him as well as behind him.

I don't think he has the pace of say an Owen and football has changed since the early 90s when Fowler broke through.

He's got a chance but for me he needs a real spike in development this year to show that he can become a real first team option for the beginning of next season when likely Coutinho is gone, Lallana is another year older...

Any chances he gets this year and what he does in training will show Klopp that he doesn't necessarily need to buy to replace Coutinho next summer and that he's a genuine option.

Klopp will give him every opportunity, it's up to him over the next 12 months

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #31: Sep 07, 2017 01:13:36 pm

If it is on goals then it may well be a close thing especially if TAA keeps up with his free kick taking!! providing he does not turn into a Roberto Carlos and start shooting from 85 yards out

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Bens time might come in the next few seasons when we do decide to cash in on Coutinho. If hes not going to get game time here though then it would be an idea to loan him to a club where he will get some consistent mens football.

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #33: Sep 07, 2017 01:56:35 pm

Joe Gomez (at CB I hope)
TAA
Woodburn
Solanke
Brewster
Tagseth

We got some real young talent in the program right now. Just thinking of the future gives me a semi

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #34: Sep 07, 2017 02:56:56 pm

As a striker at this level it's very difficult for a young lad to get a sustained run. Even Kane is going thru a thin patch so what hope for a young kid to establish himself.

Rush didn't score for his first 8/9 games. A striker now would not get that time. Goals are currency and clubs just spend the necessary.

Slightly easier for a defender and TAA will have a big future here. Strikers live from goal to goal as do clubs. Strikers keep your bags packed..

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #35: Sep 07, 2017 03:41:59 pm

Ben.

By a mile.

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #36: Sep 07, 2017 03:50:46 pm

Quote from DanMann on Sep 07, 2017 09:19:01 am

Too early all this.

TAA is getting game time so he is closer to the 1st team, but that is only because Clyne is injured and there is no real competition for that place. It is not a true indication of the progress of the player, but, he does have a fantastic opportunity now to try and show Klopp what he can do.

Wooburn and Brewster obviously struggle to get game time because we now have a wealth of talent in those areas. I can't see either getting any real consideration for some time. The odd cup game is all.

In terms of their future, well who can say? Times have changed. We haven't had the likes of a Gerrard. We've had several names come through the ranks and drift away. Some of those talented, some were shocking.

How about Ojo? Ibe? Sterling? They were supposed to be the next great Liverpool legend. Nothing came of them. I mean Sterling is still on a level (of some sort) but he's moved on. Even if TAA, Woodburn and Brewster "make it", would they stay here? Would they become a club legend? What are the lottery numbers?

at the TAA part.

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #37: Sep 07, 2017 05:57:08 pm

Quote from Frankly, Mr Shankly on Sep 07, 2017 03:50:46 pm

at the TAA part.

What are you

at?

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #38: Sep 07, 2017 06:09:12 pm

The one thing I'm sure of from watching all 3 players (TAA most, obviously) is that all 3 have fantastic technique.
The way Woodburn took the ball down before scoring the other night was an absolute joy to see.

I've seen a lot of these young lads fall by the wayside over the years, so I can't confidently make a prediction, but confidence aside, TAA I think will be a good player.
But then I thought Wisdom had a bright future with us as well.

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #39: Sep 07, 2017 06:37:49 pm

Quote from DanMann on Sep 07, 2017 09:19:01 am

Too early all this.

TAA is getting game time so he is closer to the 1st team, but that is only because Clyne is injured and there is no real competition for that place. It is not a true indication of the progress of the player, but, he does have a fantastic opportunity now to try and show Klopp what he can do.

Wooburn and Brewster obviously struggle to get game time because we now have a wealth of talent in those areas. I can't see either getting any real consideration for some time. The odd cup game is all.

In terms of their future, well who can say? Times have changed. We haven't had the likes of a Gerrard. We've had several names come through the ranks and drift away. Some of those talented, some were shocking.

How about Ojo? Ibe? Sterling? They were supposed to be the next great Liverpool legend. Nothing came of them. I mean Sterling is still on a level (of some sort) but he's moved on. Even if TAA, Woodburn and Brewster "make it", would they stay here? Would they become a club legend? What are the lottery numbers?

No real competition? You clearly haven't seen us play recently where Gomez has been Klopp's choice, and when Clynee comes back refreshed you can add him too, we have Flanagan aswell although he has yet to feature?

YNWA

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Quote from billythered on Sep 07, 2017 06:37:49 pm

No real competition? You clearly haven't seen us play recently where Gomez has been Klopp's choice, and when Clynee comes back refreshed you can add him too, we have Flanagan aswell although he has yet to feature?

YNWA

Flanagan isn't competition, I am surprised he is still a Liverpool player. I mean no disrespect when I say he is not good enough! He had one average season in a defence that was shambolic in the season we came 2nd in the league. Flanagan won't feature in anything but league cup or perhaps FA cup, unless we get very unlucky with injuries at the back.

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #41: Sep 07, 2017 07:02:13 pm

Quote from billythered on Sep 07, 2017 06:37:49 pm

No real competition? You clearly haven't seen us play recently where Gomez has been Klopp's choice, and when Clynee comes back refreshed you can add him too, we have Flanagan aswell although he has yet to feature?

YNWA

I've seen Gomez play, but TAA is clearly ahead in the order. Flanagan is a goner.

It's fairly straight forward. No Clyne = TAA.

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #42: Sep 07, 2017 07:04:08 pm

Quote from DanMann on Sep 07, 2017 07:02:13 pm

Flanagan is a goner.

Not even Burnley wanted him back. He was not really competing in that team either. He was that bad they were considering sending him back in last January. Stephen Ward and Matthew Lowton were better than him.

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #43: Sep 07, 2017 10:14:55 pm

TAA and Gomez are just completely different styles of play. We need both styles honestly. Gomez is a bigger version or Clyne and TAA is a Klopp FB that pushes up the pitch with excellent crosses and attacking instincts. Gomez is capable of putting the ball into the box with success unlike Clyne. In al honesty for me it's Gomez just because he is playing out of position and yet is still succeeding. In a perefect world the answer can be both if Klopp has enough confidence in Joe to put him back at CB and TAA commits more to defending. I think we see all in the starting 11 with Joe at CB, TAA as the RB and Woodburn somewhere on the pitch (more unsure as the where right now) in a few years. With that said there all so young that I'm okay with them being squad players until they develop more. Rushing any of them into too much football to quick could hurt their confidence. Hopefully we play enough where they can get matches under their belt and still have the elder statesman get the big games.

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #44: Sep 08, 2017 03:15:48 am

Let's not overlook Ejaria either.
I think he looked very composed and almost graceful in the few moments he had in the first team last season.
Carries the ball well and has an eye for a pass.
Can see him also being there or there abouts in 12-18 months.

*Re: Woodburn v TAA v Brewster* → Reply #45: Sep 08, 2017 10:14:20 am

God Bless The Prince of Wales

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